Radical feminists, would stay at home work be acceptable IF?
Radical feminists, would stay at home work be acceptable to your feminist ways if you were given a paycheck at the end of the week? If the answer is yes, what does that say about your thinking? That everything is about dollar signs?
(NOTE to all readers, the content below is speaking of women who were smart enough to find, sort out and choose a ethical, sane, and unselfish man for their husband.)
For the other women, who may have been burned by certain guys
(be it bf’s, husbands, or to her men in their lives), or brainwashed by feminism i can’t say much except for the fact that the best way a relationship/family works is for a person with ethical, sane, and unselfish characteristics to be wise, and insightful enough to find a mate that has them same three characteristics. Relationships can survive, when one person has these three characteristics, however it may be strained.
I am not a radical feminist either, however i have a few comments to make . I think this question is to prove a point. Jaded almost had it right, stay at home mothers do such a service that is undervalued, and under appreciated.This is where Jaded went wrong, you see Miss J mentioned a "paycheck", and not money. I know people will say it is the same. However it is really not in this situation. A paycheck means you work for a company that gave a note from the bank to reimberse you a certain amount from their reserves.Most stay at home mothers should be, and most do get money from their hubbys. She never said money does not matter.
By stating that EVERYthing is about dollar signs. I believe Miss J is not implying that money does not matter, however (i know a lot of people will have a hard time swallowing this notion) not everything is about money. Yes it is useful, and does make living easier. It is more vital than ever in society to have it. Not that i would want to try, but if you know what your doing you can survive with out money. People in other nations do it everyday.But this whole queston Miss J is asking has to more with an official paycheck from a company (VS) I assume support, or money from a hubby.
However BECAUSE there is no paycheck involved a lot of radical feminists think there is little to no value, and the stay at home mothers are "not contributing to the world"
That is the problem with a society that just sees dollar signs. Because some of the most important jobs (stay at home mothers, volunteers, etc) are non paying jobs.Yes in many respects they should be paid, how ever it is usually from the working spouse, most men i know give there wife a chunk just to spend.
Some give the whole check, to let the wife budget the money, but may keep some for him self. Why would a guy do that. Because he looks at his wife as a part of him. He is not giving HER, HIS paycheck, he is placing THEIR paycheck in her hands, cause he trusts her, loves her, and knows that she is holding down the fort, raising their future, giving the family a balance of sanity,peace through a clean, nourishing, and nice refuge from the world called a home.
So she is paid, it is just not a formal check from a company. That does not matter though. If any woman, or man came to our house, and acted condescending,mockingly, insulting, or demeaning towards my future wife because she did not work outside the house they would get a lecture from me, and my wife, they would appologize to her, beg for her forgiveness, and still may be thrown out of the house.In and out of my house, people will treat my future wife as I am treated.
Radical feminists would probably not say that she should be payed BUT the issue is that they want options for the women, which means that the man’s freedom to choose is MOOT!
If he chooses to stay at home, then she HAS to support the family and "become the man" so-to-speak. That’s one of the issues with this demand… Both people can’t have a choice.
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I don’t consider myself a radical feminist in the least, but I’d still like to answer the question, if only to give another viewpoint.
I’m a stay at home mother with 5 kids between the ages of 8 and 14. My work is by no means restful. I spend my days busy making sure my house is clean, meals are prepared, arranging appointments for the entire family (7 of us), budgeting, paying bills, grocery shopping, sewing, shopping, driving people around, feeding and taking care of pets, organizing, etc. I do not get paid.
Is the job I do any less important than a job outside the home? By staying home, I’m available to my children 24/7. If they need to talk, require guidance, or have one of their little emergencies, I’m here to talk to and ask advice from. I’m here to monitor their activities, to make sure none of them are getting into trouble, etc. My husband has 1/50th of the workload I do at his job outside the home, yet he gets paid and I don’t.
My job has value, even if it’s done from home. As someone providing a valuable service, I should be compensated the same as I would be were I working outside the house.
And yes, everything is about money. It’s needed to survive, why shouldn’t it be?
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Wow.
This is astonishing in scope of ignorance.
You and Phyllis Schlafly should have tea some day.
I’m sure you’d have plenty to agree about.
I wonder what you asked of the radical chauvinists?
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I enjoy working but I also do it to be fair to my husband. I am not the type of girl that would see my husband do 60 hours a week whilst I sat at home and hung around down town like some of the women I know. I know women who have done this and got a free ride until the kids were 18 and then left and took half cause they arent attracted to the man anymore.
I also live in an area that if you stay at home you are scabbing of the government and are on benefits. They just breed for the free house and all the perks and stay at home all day. They just hang around down town smoking and getting fat.
I know not all people that stay at home like that but in the 2 areas I have grew up in that is what staying at home meant. If you live where I live staying at home means one of those 2 things. I personally dont want to be like all those women that I know and want to help my husband out as I am not a goldigger or a scab. I love my husband and want to take the pressure of him. I work but he comes home to a clean and tidy house every night, my daughter is always bathed and settled in bed for his arrival and I can easily do this and work
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My life
An interesting question. I was a stay at home other for many years - until my first husband walked out on me, leaving me penniless and homeless, with two small children to bring up on my own.
I know the full value of both careers, and the terrible cost. As it is, I remarried and once again, becme a stay at home mother, this time knowing full well that I lack a decent pension.
If people want stay at home mothers (which I personally think is best for the children in most cases) then yes, they should be protected. You sneer at money - wait until you have none. And children to feed.
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Radical feminism was never about dollar signs my dear…it was about everything from anti-capitalist separatism to lesbianism as a life choice..and more…most feminists, who are true exponents of its principles have studied and absorbed its tenets without following its example. And some still adhere to its theories, but that is what makes feminist ideology so challenging and vital.
And so welfare checks to women who are unemployed, housekeeping to the housewife? What’s your real point? When we buy a lottery ticket and win a million would we give it back because it goes against our principles? No it’s not all about money, it’s about politics and principles…re check your thinking!
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There are feminists, radical or otherwise, who do stay at home work. What do you call authors?
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That would work for me. I would hate to stay home and listen to my children crying because no one will work so that food can be put on the table. A lot of women don’t have a choice about working. Poor women have always worked it is merely those in privileged positions that can afford a choice.
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I don’t find anything wrong with stay-at-home work in general, everyone has to do it. If you mean people who simply stay home all day, acting as maids/cooks/caretakers? Then yes, they should be paid.
They should not be forced to become dependent by doing needed+necessary work for free, this can trap people in abusive relationships when they cannot leave for financial or medical reasons. Our entire system is built on their free labor, especially with respect to people who stay home and do childcare.
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Real Life.
I don’t get this? My ways are about choice. Hey if you wanna stay at home, stay home. If you want to go work, go work. It’s your life, live it how you like. I don’t care if you choose to be at home, but if you are forced against your own will, then we have a problem.
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No. I honestly don’t give a flip about money, as long as I can live on it. I hate staying in the house all day. I like interacting with like-minded people face to face every now and then.
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(NOTE to all readers, the content below is speaking of women who were smart enough to find, sort out and choose a ethical, sane, and unselfish man for their husband.)
For the other women, who may have been burned by certain guys
(be it bf’s, husbands, or to her men in their lives), or brainwashed by feminism i can’t say much except for the fact that the best way a relationship/family works is for a person with ethical, sane, and unselfish characteristics to be wise, and insightful enough to find a mate that has them same three characteristics. Relationships can survive, when one person has these three characteristics, however it may be strained.
I am not a radical feminist either, however i have a few comments to make . I think this question is to prove a point. Jaded almost had it right, stay at home mothers do such a service that is undervalued, and under appreciated.This is where Jaded went wrong, you see Miss J mentioned a "paycheck", and not money. I know people will say it is the same. However it is really not in this situation. A paycheck means you work for a company that gave a note from the bank to reimberse you a certain amount from their reserves.Most stay at home mothers should be, and most do get money from their hubbys. She never said money does not matter.
By stating that EVERYthing is about dollar signs. I believe Miss J is not implying that money does not matter, however (i know a lot of people will have a hard time swallowing this notion) not everything is about money. Yes it is useful, and does make living easier. It is more vital than ever in society to have it. Not that i would want to try, but if you know what your doing you can survive with out money. People in other nations do it everyday.But this whole queston Miss J is asking has to more with an official paycheck from a company (VS) I assume support, or money from a hubby.
However BECAUSE there is no paycheck involved a lot of radical feminists think there is little to no value, and the stay at home mothers are "not contributing to the world"
That is the problem with a society that just sees dollar signs. Because some of the most important jobs (stay at home mothers, volunteers, etc) are non paying jobs.Yes in many respects they should be paid, how ever it is usually from the working spouse, most men i know give there wife a chunk just to spend.
Some give the whole check, to let the wife budget the money, but may keep some for him self. Why would a guy do that. Because he looks at his wife as a part of him. He is not giving HER, HIS paycheck, he is placing THEIR paycheck in her hands, cause he trusts her, loves her, and knows that she is holding down the fort, raising their future, giving the family a balance of sanity,peace through a clean, nourishing, and nice refuge from the world called a home.
So she is paid, it is just not a formal check from a company. That does not matter though. If any woman, or man came to our house, and acted condescending,mockingly, insulting, or demeaning towards my future wife because she did not work outside the house they would get a lecture from me, and my wife, they would appologize to her, beg for her forgiveness, and still may be thrown out of the house.In and out of my house, people will treat my future wife as I am treated.
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